Phred wrote:
>Doesn't take much to get you sidetracked does it?
Quotes:
From: http://www.jose.it-berater.org/smfforum/index.php?topic=1562.0
"This is the same Jeff Daniels [PowerBASIC Staff] that hangs the
phone up on you if you dare to call and politely ask for the
persons name.
This goes to the very heart of my issue with PB and the Jeckle
and Hide nature of the owner when you dare to ask for anything
like a development schedule or revision notes for a new version
(god forbid the words 'bug fix' appear in there (like every
other software product).
PB is a GREAT product but we just have no idea what is coming
next, and no constructive criticism is permitted or you will
be instantly banned like a whole host of very talented developers
that no longer post on the PB Forum.
I have seriously considered stopping development for a year
to learn C or C# for this reason. Had it not been for the
amazing contribution by Jose to PB I would have done so a
while ago"
From http://www.freebasic.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=92041
"I like PB for a number of reasons, but after numerous run ins
with the owner [Bob Zale] All of a sudden my nick has "come
to their attention" as not being my actual name, despite the
fact that I hashed this out on the phone with the owner three
years ago when he agreed to let me continue using my nick
after I bought more product.
The Forum used to be a great resource, but after years of heavy
handed culling, all the good developers have left. I have had
it too. Apart from that, who knows where this language is going.
At least here you say you intend to implement OOP and so forth.
We can at least have some hope things are going in a direction
consitent with our needs.
I have got to find an alternative language and begin ****ting
10 years development soon.
I am also hoping that in this forum nicks are allowed and that
there is tolerant admin that welcomes active discussion and
perhaps even a little constructive criticism with appropriate
courtesy of course"
....
"I have made some very good friends on the PB Forum and I will
be very sad to leave them, but dealing with a rageaholic that
refers to the Forums as "his private property" constantly and
illegally sends your personal information (gather during a
business transaction) to third parties, is just unacceptable."
....
"You know what, Mike.. I'm coming in the door here right
behind you."
....
"Well I am not surprised at that thread at all.
What does surprise me is that he thinks he can fool all the
people all the time."
Quote:
We'll reconsider that tem****ary block whenever you're ready
to treat your hosts and your peers with normal business
respect. I'm afraid we can't let one person with a temper
make it uncomfortable for everyone else. Please let us
know when you're ready.
Best regards,
Tim Robbins
Quote:
http://forum.magicball.net/showthread.php?t=13108
Hi,
I am just a little confused and maybe you can help me.
You firstregistered with the name of Otringal on
Novemember 4th and then registered again using the
name Quetch Twinsen, which is the name of a fictional
video game character. I know you are aware of this
character as it appeared in Little Big Adventure
1 and 2 and you are working on your own version of
this game. Also your email has the name of Marcia
Razvan. Please help me understand how your real name
is also the name of character in a video game
produced by the French company, Adeline Software?
Sincerely,
Steve Rossell
PowerBASIC Staff"
....
"Statements like
Quote:
PowerBASIC maintains a short list of folks with whom we
will not do business.
and emails like:
Quote:
I think it would be best if you find another supplier
of programming tools. It's clear we can't communicate.
Pleas don't order again. Best regards,
Bob Zale
PowerBASIC Inc.
make me wonder what reality he inhabits. If I had know this
when I started I would never have chosen PB. This is hard
enough. Who wants to deal with that!
As for the "sup****t" mentioned in that thread
Quote:
Anyway, the real truth is that PowerBASIC free sup****t
is extensive and well known. We invite all of our friends
to use it to their best advantage.
Bob Zale
PowerBASIC Inc.
The forums are defined as "User to User" for good reason.
The last time I received any sup****t in those forums was
somewhere around 2002 when Lance was active. Unfortunatly,
he too disappeared without a trace... He was the reason
I chose PowerBasic in the first place.
Since then, "sup****t" has been characterized by posts like this:
Quote:
http://www.powerbasic.com/sup****t/forums/Forum4/HTML/012827.html
Well, Mike, at PowerBASIC, we create and sell programming tools.
It's not possible to include a free lifetime consulting service.
That's economically impossible unless we start charging $3000
to $5000 for compilers like MS and Borland. If you go to Sears
and buy a hammer, they don't take the hammer and build you a
house. They couldn't afford to do that, either, at the prices
they charge for a hammer. When you ask "Please write this code
for me..." or "Please make my code faster..." or "Please help
me find my coding bug..." or "Please translate this code from
SNOBOL for me...", that's consulting work, not technical
sup****t. That's the very reason we created these forums many
years ago, and that's why they're called "Peer Sup****t Forums".
This is simply not something we can do free of charge based
upon upgrade prices under $100. We'd like you to get the
assistance as inexpensively as possible, and I really hope
you can make a connection here. However, if all else fails,
we have always offered paid technical assistance for "
in-depth" problems of this nature. Feel free to contact us
at your convenience if that is of interest to you.
Thanks!
Bob Zale
PowerBASIC Inc.
Either I misunderstood the concept of sup****t or I am just
not a friend.
There seems to be plenty of time to investigate a kid gamer,
yet there is no time to spend expanding upon the choice of
using the FPU for a DWORD operation... and I was actually
hoping to learn something...
The product enjoys the sup****t of some really talented
developers. THEY are PB sup****t. I guess they don't realize
that without these contributions, there is no sup****t.
Providing a forum in which "sup****t happens" is not quite
the same thing as providing sup****t. Even I have contributed
to this body of knowledge in my attempts to give back, by
exploring new areas and posting source code. No more.
I wish I had the skills to actually contribute to this
project [FreeBasic], because I can think of no finer way to
say I am not willing to get drawn into that kind of nonsense,
that I have tolerated for so long, than to create a better
alternative. My hat is off to all of you working on this
project."
From http://www.freebasic.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10567&&start=15
"All of these stories about run-ins with PB Inc are quite
interesting. And they mirror my own experiences."
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