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Re: Interpreter for old basic programs from the line number era

by Charmed Snark <snark@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 18, 2008 at 07:52 PM

Eric expounded in news:f1e8dd88-0800-4725-98ee-8ad4fa188ee5
@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Mar 6, 5:26 pm, Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/>
wrote:
>> >There's Cheesecake BASIC V 3 that does.
>> >http://noktosoft.megafolio.com/
>>
>> Now that is cool! "Cheesecake BASIC is written in BASIC, and
>> can be compiled with the PowerBasic Console Compiler (2.0 or
>> above), with QuickBASIC 4.5, or with Cheesecake BASIC V3"
...
> Remember that the term Virtual Machine is just a fancy term that means
> the runtime interpreter that executes the p-code instructions. "cvm"
> is the Cheesecake virtual machine. Once this is compiled it is called
> the "RTL".
...
> Eric

Interesting reading.

WRT to VMs, I've always found that term, at least in its modern usage, to 
be a bit of a "marketing amusement". GW-Basic for example, also 
interpreted its own "tokenised program format" a long time ago:

  see http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~af380/GW-BASIC-tokens.html

Many other interpreted basics do something similar. I am also sure that 
there were many many earlier examples of this technique.

Wikipedia states ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine
) that 
the term was "originally defined by Popek and Goldberg as an efficient, 
isolated duplicate of a real machine. Current use includes virtual 
machines which have no direct correspondence to any real hardware."

I can't recall if JVM was based on any real hardware. I seem to recall 
Sun was making some noise about JVM hardware at one time. But I suspect 
that in Java's case, Java byte code came long before any real hardware 
ever existed.

Warren.

-- 
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Interpreter for old basic programs from the line number era
thomas.mertes@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-03 11:12:00 
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Paul Bartlett <bartlet  2008-03-03 20:07:01 
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rebel <me@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-03-04 10:16:31 
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"R.Nicholson" &  2008-03-03 18:23:10 
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rebel <me@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-03-05 10:44:45 
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thomas.mertes@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-08 01:56:45 
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ArarghMail803NOSPAM@[EMAI  2008-03-08 15:47:56 
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thomas.mertes@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-04 00:05:17 
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"R.Nicholson" &  2008-03-04 19:09:26 
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Happy Trails <nomail@[  2008-03-04 22:46:12 
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"R.Nicholson" &  2008-03-04 21:06:46 
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Happy Trails <nomail@[  2008-03-05 11:07:24 
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thomas.mertes@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-05 00:04:10 
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"Auric__" <n  2008-03-06 17:12:03 
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thomas.mertes@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-06 12:05:46 
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"Auric__" <n  2008-03-07 17:12:49 
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ArarghMail803NOSPAM@[EMAI  2008-03-07 13:38:51 
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"Auric__" <n  2008-03-07 23:58:56 
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ArarghMail803NOSPAM@[EMAI  2008-03-07 18:53:19 
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"Auric__" <n  2008-03-10 17:46:12 
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ArarghMail803NOSPAM@[EMAI  2008-03-10 18:17:41 
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"Auric__" <n  2008-03-11 17:01:43 
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ArarghMail803NOSPAM@[EMAI  2008-03-11 17:43:05 
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"Auric__" <n  2008-03-12 17:35:00 
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ArarghMail803NOSPAM@[EMAI  2008-03-12 14:22:49 
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"Auric__" <n  2008-03-13 15:10:08 
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ArarghMail803NOSPAM@[EMAI  2008-03-13 19:36:55 
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"Auric__" <n  2008-03-14 17:26:15 
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ArarghMail803NOSPAM@[EMAI  2008-03-14 18:01:00 
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Guy Macon <http://www.  2008-03-06 20:58:28 
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"Tom Lake" <  2008-03-06 16:02:16 
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Guy Macon <http://www.  2008-03-06 21:26:33 
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"Judson McClendon&qu  2008-03-06 15:25:02 
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ArarghMail803NOSPAM@[EMAI  2008-03-06 16:58:58 
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Vic Drastik <user@[EMA  2008-03-08 23:33:53 
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Vic Drastik <user@[EMA  2008-03-08 23:51:54 
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thomas.mertes@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-06 15:16:17 
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thomas.mertes@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-08 01:20:26 
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"Auric__" <n  2008-03-10 17:51:46 
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"Auric__" <n  2008-03-11 17:21:41 
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"Auric__" <n  2008-03-11 17:23:33 
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thomas.mertes@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-08 01:38:33 
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thomas.mertes@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-11 12:57:35 
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"Auric__" <n  2008-03-12 18:06:43 
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Warren Gay <snark@[EMA  2008-03-13 15:19:22 
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thomas.mertes@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-13 03:41:59 
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Warren Gay <snark@[EMA  2008-03-13 15:36:05 
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Thomas Dickey <dickey@  2008-03-14 11:11:41 
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Charmed Snark <snark@[  2008-03-14 15:28:29 
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Thomas Dickey <dickey@  2008-03-14 22:37:27 
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Charmed Snark <snark@[  2008-03-15 04:15:36 
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Thomas Dickey <dickey@  2008-03-16 13:10:27 
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Thomas Dickey <dickey@  2008-03-14 16:03:56 
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thomas.mertes@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-14 08:41:36 
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Charmed Snark <snark@[  2008-03-14 15:57:50 
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Eric <englere_geo@[EMA  2008-03-18 09:11:26 
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Charmed Snark <snark@[  2008-03-18 19:52:03 
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winston19842005 <bjjly  2008-03-18 18:18:44 
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Eric <englere_geo@[EMA  2008-03-18 20:41:12 
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"winston19842005@[EM  2008-03-18 22:13:40 
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Charmed Snark <snark@[  2008-03-19 15:32:27 
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thomas.mertes@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-19 12:35:28 
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Derek <derekrss@[EMAIL  2008-03-19 22:37:05 

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