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Re: S/360

by "R. Vowels" <robin_v@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 24, 2006 at 02:25 PM

John W. Kennedy wrote in message ...
>robin wrote:
>> "John W. Kennedy" <jwkenne@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:KyjAf.3955$e9.3653@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> robin wrote:
>>>> From: "John W. Kennedy" <jwkenne@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:16 PM
>>>>
>>>>> robin wrote:
>>>>>> "John W. Kennedy" <jwkenne@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:ivXyf.40$gh5.16@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> robin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> The 704 family offered double precision, too; it was not fully
>>>>>>>>>>> implemented in hardware, but the hardware assisted it, and the
>> FORTRAN
>>>>>>>>>>> compiler sup****ted it.
>>>>>>>>>> It had to, in order to meet the standard.
>>>>>>>>> There was no FORTRAN standard until long afterwards.
>>>>>>>> IBM set it.
>>>>>>> So your argument is that the 704 hardware had to implement
>>>>>>> double-precision floating-point in 1954 in order to sup****t
FORTRAN IV,
>>>>>>>   which didn't even come out until 1962 (two hardware generations
later)?
>>>>>> You said it ; I didn't.
>>>>> The bloody quotes are right above.
>>>> I think that it would be a good idea if you ceased
>>>> your ridiculous allegations, which have not been based on anything.
>>> You said -- it's quoted right above -- that the FORTRAN compiler for
the
>>> 704 had to sup****t double precision "in order to meet the standard",
>>> which is absurd, because the FORTRAN compiler for the 704 was the
first
>>> FORTRAN compiler there ever was, and existed long before any standard.
>>
>> And I replied that IBM set it.
>
>In other words, you are loudly insisting that the first FORTRAN compiler
>for the 704 was compatible with itself. Some people might find that
>observation a little useless.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But for most work, little difference between 36 bits and 32
bits.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But that's no measure, anyhow. The appropriate measure is
>>>>>>>>>>>> the number of mantissa bits and range of exponent.
>>>>>>>>>>> They add up to the word size, one way or the other.
>>>>>>>>>> Not relevant; what's im****tant is the breakdown --
>>>>>>>>>> and in particular, the number of mantissa bits.
>>>>>>>>> In order to make any sense of your argument, I can only assume
that you
>>>>>>>>> do not know what the words "relevant" and "mantissa" mean.
Kindly look
>>>>>>>>> them up.
>>>>>>>> The term "mantissa" has been used since the early days of
computers
>>>>>>>> to describe part of floating-point number.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you having a bad day?
>>>>>>> Either you are attempting to argue that the size of the fraction
and the
>>>>>>> size of the exponent are each more im****tant than one another,
while
>>>>>>> simultaneously maintaining that word size has nothing to do with
the
>>>>>>> issue either way, or else you are simply misusing words.
>>>>>> Are you trying to divert attention from "mantissa"?
>>>>> We'll try this one more time.
>>>>>
>>>>> You argue simultaneously that the "mantissa" is most im****tant and
that
>>>>> the exponent is most im****tant.
>>>> If you look again, you will see that I didn't say that.
>>> In one and the same posting, you said, "What's im****tant is ... the
>>> number of mantissa bits," and then followed it up by indicating that
the
>>> 360 did a good thing by increasing the exponent range at the expense
of
>>> fraction bits. You can't have it both ways.
>>
>> I didn't say that at all.
>
>Yes, you did, as is plainly visible.
>
>I see no point in arguing further with a pathological liar. I suggest
>you seek professional help.

The only one who needs help is yourself, who has clear difficulty
in comprehending posts.

BTW, I do not lie.  It is you who is going out of your way
to put interpretations, inferences, and conclusions on my posts
that simply aren't there.
 




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Re: S/360
hancock4@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2006-01-13 09:25:48 
Re: S/360
"John W. Kennedy&quo  2006-01-13 15:26:11 
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"robin" <rob  2006-01-13 23:28:44 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2006-01-13 19:30:47 
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glen herrmannsfeldt <g  2006-01-14 02:00:48 
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"Donald L. Dobbs&quo  2006-01-14 11:53:14 
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"robin" <rob  2006-01-15 14:25:08 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2006-01-15 11:46:34 
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glen herrmannsfeldt <g  2006-01-16 00:26:15 
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"robin" <rob  2006-01-16 23:28:40 
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"robin" <rob  2006-01-16 23:28:41 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2006-01-16 20:11:37 
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glen herrmannsfeldt <g  2006-01-16 19:28:21 
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"Tom Linden" &l  2006-01-16 20:19:01 
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glen herrmannsfeldt <g  2006-01-16 21:59:58 
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multicsfan <multicsfan  2006-01-17 13:01:21 
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Dan Nagle <dannagle@[E  2006-01-17 13:35:59 
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multicsfan <multicsfan  2006-01-17 21:09:17 
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Dan Nagle <dannagle@[E  2006-01-17 22:00:29 
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multicsfan <multicsfan  2006-01-17 22:11:17 
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glen herrmannsfeldt <g  2006-01-17 19:11:38 
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multicsfan <multicsfan  2006-01-18 04:18:15 
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glen herrmannsfeldt <g  2006-01-17 21:00:10 
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"robin" <rob  2006-01-18 13:27:46 
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"robin" <rob  2006-01-17 21:18:17 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2006-01-17 22:16:30 
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ime@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R  2006-01-19 06:31:58 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2006-01-19 11:31:46 
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"Tom Linden" &l  2006-01-19 14:25:29 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2006-01-21 00:11:31 
Re: S/360
"robin" <rob  2006-01-22 02:11:29 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2006-01-21 23:53:43 
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ararghmail601NOSPAM@[EMAI  2006-01-21 23:45:18 
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"Tom Lake" <  2006-01-22 07:27:13 
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ararghmail601NOSPAM@[EMAI  2006-01-22 02:45:39 
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"Tom Lake" <  2006-01-22 10:26:38 
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ararghmail601NOSPAM@[EMAI  2006-01-22 05:33:34 
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Bob Lidral <l1dralspam  2006-01-22 09:05:28 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2006-01-22 12:39:26 
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"Tom Lake" <  2006-01-22 18:07:39 
Re: S/360
Bob Lidral <l1dralspam  2006-01-23 01:47:44 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2006-01-22 12:37:49 
Re: S/360
"R. Vowels" <  2006-01-24 14:25:07 
Re: S/360
"robin" <rob  2006-02-02 23:36:41 
Re: S/360
glen herrmannsfeldt <g  2006-01-19 20:14:04 
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"robin" <rob  2006-01-20 00:14:17 
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"robin" <rob  2006-01-20 00:14:16 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2006-01-21 00:22:49 
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"robin" <rob  2006-01-22 02:11:31 
Re: S/360
"John W. Kennedy&quo  2006-01-21 23:59:22 
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"R. Vowels" <  2006-01-24 14:25:08 
Re: S/360
"robin" <rob  2006-04-08 03:34:11 
Re: S/360
glen herrmannsfeldt <g  2006-04-07 22:16:04 
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"robin" <rob  2006-04-10 01:05:09 
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"Tom Linden" &l  2006-04-10 06:34:38 
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Binyamin Dissen <posti  2006-04-10 19:51:31 
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glen herrmannsfeldt <g  2006-04-10 17:48:54 
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"James J. Weinkam&qu  2006-04-10 23:15:40 
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"robin" <rob  2006-05-25 12:58:54 
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glen herrmannsfeldt <g  2006-05-26 17:41:26 
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"James J. Weinkam&qu  2006-05-27 05:12:32 
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ime@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R  2006-05-27 08:45:31 
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"robin" <rob  2006-05-25 12:58:54 
Re: S/360
glen herrmannsfeldt <g  2006-05-25 13:49:57 
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"robin" <rob  2006-05-29 00:37:01 
Re: S/360
glen herrmannsfeldt <g  2006-05-28 17:41:27 
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"robin" <rob  2006-05-30 00:03:10 
Re: S/360
Steve Myers <noone@[EM  2006-05-31 21:16:13 
Re: S/360
"robin" <rob  2006-06-01 22:06:11 
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"robin" <rob  2006-06-02 23:27:59 
Re: S/360
Steve Myers <noone@[EM  2006-06-03 12:19:30 
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"robin" <rob  2006-06-07 10:58:32 
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glen herrmannsfeldt <g  2006-06-07 13:59:32 
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"robin" <rob  2006-06-10 22:47:44 
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"robin" <rob  2006-06-01 22:06:11 
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"robin" <rob  2006-02-03 15:05:02 
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"Sven Pran" <  2006-01-14 01:32:19 
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"John W. Kennedy&quo  2006-01-13 19:49:54 
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multicsfan <multicsfan  2006-01-14 00:22:28 

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