On Apr 8, 1:33 am, Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demun...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
> Tim Roberts <spamt...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
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>
>
> > Bjarni Juliusson <spamt...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > >Emerald Saint wrote:
> > >> does anybody know a newsgroup where they discuss programming in C
language -
> > >> old fa****on non-visual C
>
> > >comp.lang.c? ...
>
> > To borrow a line from the original Star Wars, you will never find a
more
> > wretched hive of s*** and villainy. We must be careful.
>
> > Comp.lang.c is a fine newsgroup, as long as you never actually expect
to
> > participate. Never in my life have I seen such utter, sneering
disdain for
> > newbies (with the possible exception of comp.lang.c++). Virtually
every
> > question asked descends relatively quickly into senseless flames. The
> > signal-to-noise ratio is very low.
>
> > I consider myself a very competent C programmer -- nay, even an expert
--
> > and I have vowed never to go back. I recommend you ask your question
on
> > microsoft.public.vc.language. There is a certain amount of newbie
> > intolerance there, but much much less than in comp.lang.c, even if
your
> > question isn't directly Visual C++ related.
>
> I don't believe I've even ever individually read comp.lang.c,
> so I can't verify your claim, it wouldn't surprise me though.
> However, the reason I've never read it is because right next
> to it on the list of newsgroups I noticed that there was a
> very active comp.lang.c.moderated in which, whilst having its
> fair selection of people who are still living in 36-bit la-la
> land despite the fall-out, if you go there with a sensible
> question, which shows that you've actually thought about the
> question and read the FAQ, there's always been a sensible
> answer. So I'd recommend that. But first, I'd recommend the
> FAQ, of course.
>
> Don't get me wrong, I did get to read lots of c.l.c. posts
> during the Scott ****ds era, as they were crossposted here as
> well for our benefit and edification. ;-)
>
> Phil
> --
> Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all.
> -- Microsoft voice recognition live demonstration
I'd also recommend getting a hold of the C standard do***ent. Bought
mine several years ago for $18. It may be an eye opener for somebody
who's never read quality and detailed literature on C. I've seen many
books with mistakes (in terms of C) and lacking a lot of im****tant
details, so, I know it could happen to other people too. Of course,
the standard may be not an easy and entertaining reading, but it may
be very very useful - just read with attention and search in it for
various keywords.
Alex
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