Re: scrum

On May 2, 10:22 am, "Stephen Taylor <edi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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<StephenTaylorF...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Further from Ward Cunningham (w...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> I can understand how any methodology's language neutrality claim might
> rub an APL programmer the wrong way.  I am an APL programmer and APL
> has had a profound influence on how I think of programming. No wonder
> modern APL programmers might think that agile is struggling to capture
> properties that have been known in APL circles since the beginning.
> They would be right.
>
> I am a fan of J and especially the J Phrase Book which is a beautiful
> collections of idioms. I have pointed this work out to design pattern
> zealots when they needed a whack on the side of the head. This is a
> whack most OOPSLA regulars could benefit from today.
>
> So, does Scrum have anything to offer APL programmers? More often not,
> I would think.
>
> The J team won the Judge's Prize in the  ICFP'98 Functional
> Programming Contest. They wrote an awesome retrospective on how they
> approached the problem and solved it over a weekend. (A link here
> would be appropriate but I could only find broken links from which I
> got the year.) Were I designing a methodology for APL programmers I'd
> want an agile method that was centered on the exact sort of
> cooperation exhibited by this team.

The description mentioned above can be found in
http://www.jsoftware.com/papers/pousse.htm
The game is also included in the J distribution under
Studio|Demos|Pousse .

The technology for collaboration has improved since 1998.
Then, we had to use dial-up modem access and telephone calls;
today, we have high-speed Internet access, Wiki, etc.