"Stephen Taylor <editor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <StephenTaylorFRSA@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Apr 23, 3:32 am, "Don Kelly" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> ----------------------------"aleph0" <apl68...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> APL's main fault was that those in charge of groups doing program
design for
>> a company, realized that they were likely to lose their empires(fewer
people
[...]
> This approach was promoted in the 1980s by Boehm, DeMarco, Yourdon and
> others, and went unchallenged until Beck wrote "eXtreme Programming
> eXplained".
>
[...]
> Of course, we have always found brave souls who want the exceptional
> results badly enough. But if you want middle managers, recruited and
> promoted for managing industrial processes, to risk their reputation
> on unorthodox methods, you ask too much of them.
>
> It's not the managers, it's the metaphor.
>
> SJT
Stephen, then why did they follow Yourdon and not e.g. James Martin
(fervent
promotor of languages/systems like APL, NOMAD a.t.l.) and other writers
like
Doris Appleby?
jk
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