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Re: Dyalog releases Version 12

by Gosi <gosinn@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 6, 2008 at 05:23 AM

On Mar 6, 9:11 am, phil chastney
<phil.hates.s...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Gosi wrote:
> > On Mar 4, 10:26 am, "Stephen Taylor <edi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>"
> > <StephenTaylorF...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> Dyalog has released Version 12 of its APL, which now supports Unicode
> >> for all character arrays.
> > <snip, snip>
>
> > It is interesting that there are two versions.
> > One Classic and one with Unicode.
>
> think about the alternative: supporting both string types within the one
> interpreter  --  that would be a nightmare for design and implementation
> of the interpreter, and it would take forever to wean ASCII-only users
> onto Unicode
>
> Dyalog have taken the right decision, but instead of simply releasing
> enhanced Unicode versions without enhanced "classic" versions, it might
> be better received by their customer base if Dyalog were to announce an
> end-date for ASCII-only enhancements first
>
> Python 3 has taken a similar route, making all strings Unicode only, but
> with support for "byte streams", which is handy when you don't yet know
> what encoding the incoming stream uses
>
> Perl 6 was headed down a similar route, but development seemed to be
> mired in an over-ambitious design, and I haven't kept up with the story
>
> > Companies with operations in countries outside the english speaking
> > countries it will probably be quicker to embrace the Unicode version.
>
> companies with operations entirely within the English-speaking world may
> also find Unicode useful when they need to use a mathematical or
> technical symbol or two, or even a quotation in Foreign (it adds so much
> _style_, don't you think?)
>
> regads   . . .   /phil
>
> P.S: Python 3 also unifies the concepts of "type" and "object"  --  that
> is such a *right* thing to do, I expect we shall similar developments in
> other languages

It has been interesting to watch the glacial speed of Unicode
adaptation.
I guess we have talked about Unicode for 20 years in this group.
I think that APL2 is all Unicode now if I remember correctly.
J supports Unicode.

It will be interesting to see if people use Unicode to translate
scientific mathematical notations directly to Apl.

Has anyone tried that?




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Dyalog releases Version 12
"Stephen Taylor <  2008-03-04 02:26:21 
Re: Dyalog releases Version 12
Gosi <gosinn@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-04 03:46:01 
Re: Dyalog releases Version 12
phil chastney <phil.ha  2008-03-06 09:11:22 
Re: Dyalog releases Version 12
Gosi <gosinn@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-06 05:23:50 
Re: Dyalog releases Version 12
phil chastney <phil.ha  2008-03-06 14:53:27 
Re: Dyalog releases Version 12
Sam Sirlin <swsirlin@[  2008-03-06 09:06:54 
Re: Dyalog releases Version 12
Gosi <gosinn@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-06 05:33:20 
Re: Dyalog releases Version 12
"David Liebtag"  2008-03-06 09:38:34 
Re: Dyalog releases Version 12
microapl@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-07 01:07:45 
Re: Dyalog releases Version 12
Gosi <gosinn@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-07 01:49:45 
Re: Dyalog releases Version 12
phil chastney <phil.ha  2008-03-07 20:58:04 
Re: Dyalog releases Version 12
Morten Kromberg <mkrom  2008-03-07 03:50:39 
Re: Dyalog releases Version 12
phil chastney <phil.ha  2008-03-07 19:58:20 
Re: Dyalog releases Version 12
Gosi <gosinn@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-07 13:54:27 
Re: Dyalog releases Version 12
phil chastney <phil.ha  2008-03-08 01:33:26 
Re: Dyalog releases Version 12
Gosi <gosinn@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-08 01:27:36 
Re: Dyalog releases Version 12
phil chastney <phil.ha  2008-03-08 09:59:38 
Re: Dyalog releases Version 12
Gosi <gosinn@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-12 06:02:52 

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