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A question to the APL vendors on Windows GUIs ...

by aleph0 <apl68000@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 13, 2008 at 05:15 AM

AFAIK, most APL vendors interface to the standard Windows GUI objects.
Is there a possibility of using "Java GUI Modules" instead ?
i.e. Java  Classes etc etc.
.... and if so, is it possible without much effort ?




The reason I'm asking ?

Well, a recent example :
.... a friend of mine recently recieved his personal copy of APL and
his very first comment was....." the GUI interface looks wrong ; is it
(APL) installed properly?"

( he meant the APL-Window, not anything he himself had written  .. and
it was of course installed properly )


When you see the software on the market today, their GUIs are more
than pleasing to the eye... ... which is of course a major selling
factor ..  rightly or wrongly !

I myself have written over the last few years a couple of larger sized
APL apps which I intended to sell. In the end, I decided not to
bother, as the GUI just didn't look "nice" enough ! ...... not because
of my own work,but because the GUI simply wasn't "slick"enough ... ..
as is the case in most Java apps , for example !


I also did a lot of exploratory work on internet interfacing ( Browser
DOM models etc. etc. ) as well as reporting loads of bugs ( 100's of
Emails ) in the latest verions of my APL interpreter . I discovered
( from the vendor ) that not many Users have been as far as I have in
those domains ! This surprised me "very" much !!



I am well aware that most APL Vendors (apart from IBM) probably don't
have the resources to expend  on GUIs especially when there are more
important outstanding jobs on the table. OTOH, I seem to remember
Sharp APL doing a Java interface !




PS:
Don't flame me for being critical .. but I would like to see some
constructive discussion on this topic !!
Also, I am not trying to discourage the small Vendors, and consider
they have "all" done more than excellent jobs.




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aleph0 <apl68000@[EMAI  2008-01-13 05:15:03 
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AAsk <AA2e72E@[EMAIL P  2008-01-13 08:54:55 
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aleph0 <apl68000@[EMAI  2008-01-13 09:20:47 
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AAsk <AA2e72E@[EMAIL P  2008-01-13 09:31:59 
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aleph0 <apl68000@[EMAI  2008-01-13 10:50:07 
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"Jan Karman" &l  2008-01-13 21:28:15 
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AAsk <AA2e72E@[EMAIL P  2008-01-13 11:00:52 
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aleph0 <apl68000@[EMAI  2008-01-13 12:17:38 
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aleph0 <apl68000@[EMAI  2008-01-13 13:39:01 
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"Jan Karman" &l  2008-01-13 23:19:29 
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"Jan Karman" &l  2008-01-14 08:42:35 
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sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-01-14 17:33:35 
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"Jan Karman" &l  2008-01-14 19:11:45 
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Morten Kromberg <mkrom  2008-01-14 02:19:42 
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"David Liebtag"  2008-01-14 07:51:58 
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Morten Kromberg <mkrom  2008-01-14 10:54:35 
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Ibeam2000 <Ibeam2000@[  2008-01-14 20:39:11 
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Morten Kromberg <mkrom  2008-01-15 00:36:00 
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Gosi <gosinn@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-15 01:30:39 
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Marv <smoak@[EMAIL PRO  2008-01-15 09:35:38 
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"Jan Karman" &l  2008-01-15 19:00:39 
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Morten Kromberg <mkrom  2008-01-15 12:46:47 
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aleph0 <apl68000@[EMAI  2008-01-15 14:14:01 
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Bob Cain <arcane@[EMAI  2008-01-16 00:55:30 
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sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-01-17 16:54:58 
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Gosi <gosinn@[EMAIL PR  2008-01-15 14:28:40 
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Morten Kromberg <mkrom  2008-01-16 02:36:38 
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Ibeam2000 <Ibeam2000@[  2008-01-16 21:10:26 
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"Stephen Taylor <  2008-01-17 05:23:20 
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"Jan Karman" &l  2008-01-17 15:01:31 
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"David Liebtag"  2008-01-17 09:32:16 
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aleph0 <apl68000@[EMAI  2008-01-17 07:29:03 
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"Jan Karman" &l  2008-01-17 17:08:43 
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aleph0 <apl68000@[EMAI  2008-01-17 08:36:20 
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"Jan Karman" &l  2008-01-17 18:16:19 
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"Jan Karman" &l  2008-01-17 18:33:20 
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aleph0 <apl68000@[EMAI  2008-01-17 08:45:26 
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"Jan Karman" &l  2008-01-17 18:16:45 
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aleph0 <apl68000@[EMAI  2008-01-17 11:33:22 
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"Stephen Taylor <  2008-01-18 00:30:12 
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"Jan Karman" &l  2008-01-18 11:52:51 
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sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-01-20 08:10:30 
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Morten Kromberg <mkrom  2008-01-19 01:58:54 
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"Jan Karman" &l  2008-01-19 12:43:39 
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aleph0 <apl68000@[EMAI  2008-01-19 03:39:25 
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"Jan Karman" &l  2008-01-19 12:50:36 
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Veli-Matti <veli-matti  2008-01-19 15:25:34 
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Dick Bowman <dick@[EMA  2008-01-20 07:53:00 
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aleph0 <apl68000@[EMAI  2008-01-20 02:07:02 
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Morten Kromberg <mkrom  2008-01-21 01:30:14 
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aleph0 <apl68000@[EMAI  2008-01-21 02:09:08 
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microapl@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-01-22 04:51:51 
Re: A question to the APL vendors on Windows GUIs ...
"J. Goff" <i  2008-01-22 11:41:10 

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