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Re: How to check a Float for NaN

by "Randy Brukardt" <randy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 30, 2008 at 06:29 PM

"Adam Beneschan" <adam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:93b0d930-102a-4ac4-8b85-48e87d9d3df1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> P.S. Has the ARG or anyone discussed the possibility of building
> sup****t for infinities and/or NaN's into the language---i.e. defining
> a floating-point type that includes those "values"?  G.1.1(56) makes
> me think that maybe there were some thoughts that this might be done
> sometime in the future, if there's a demand for it, but I could be
> reading something into this paragraph that isn't there.

The "Rationale for Ada 2005" notes that AI95-00315 proposed such sup****t:
see http://www.adaic.com/standards/05rat/html/Rat-9-3-3.html.

To expand a bit on the reasons for not including this: The proposal would
have required vastly different (and much worse in general) code generation
and optimization: much of what you can prove about values and expressions
goes out the window when you include NaNs and infinitities in the
equation.
The proposal suggested a different mode for this, but some implementers
did
not want to have to really sup****t separate modes (they treat the
"relaxed"
and "strict" modes the same). Moreover, the ARG didn't have any experts
that
could really tell us if the proposal was useful or overkill, and vendors
didn't seem to have paying customers with specific concerns. As such,
there
was no consensus on how to proceed, and it was tabled to put our energies
toward areas that we understood and had consensus for.

I believe the ARG will revisit this area if we get the right expertise
(and
vendors have paying customers who care: I know RR does not have such
customers today).

                         Randy.
 




 35 Posts in Topic:
How to check a Float for NaN
Jerry <lanceboyle@[EMA  2008-04-30 03:27:51 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
christoph.grein@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-30 03:47:54 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
christoph.grein@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-30 03:50:15 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Adam Beneschan <adam@[  2008-04-30 08:02:05 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
"Randy Brukardt"  2008-04-30 18:29:14 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
"Stuart" <st  2008-05-01 09:04:11 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Jerry <lanceboyle@[EMA  2008-04-30 13:33:17 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Jerry <lanceboyle@[EMA  2008-04-30 13:36:21 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Adam Beneschan <adam@[  2008-04-30 14:53:54 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Adam Beneschan <adam@[  2008-04-30 16:23:13 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Adam Beneschan <adam@[  2008-04-30 18:00:21 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Keith Thompson <kst-u@  2008-05-01 12:52:16 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Jerry <lanceboyle@[EMA  2008-04-30 18:05:41 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Adam Beneschan <adam@[  2008-05-01 07:38:40 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
"Stuart" <st  2008-05-01 18:14:09 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
"Randy Brukardt"  2008-05-01 14:22:35 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Jerry <lanceboyle@[EMA  2008-05-01 16:57:26 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Jerry <lanceboyle@[EMA  2008-05-01 17:04:53 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Martin Krischik <krisc  2008-05-05 20:23:02 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
anon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-05-10 17:00:51 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Keith Thompson <kst-u@  2008-05-11 15:00:55 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
anon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-05-12 02:01:18 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Adam Beneschan <adam@[  2008-05-05 13:49:25 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Jerry <lanceboyle@[EMA  2008-05-06 11:09:56 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
"Wiljan Derks"   2008-05-06 20:45:47 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Adam Beneschan <adam@[  2008-05-06 15:18:39 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
"Randy Brukardt"  2008-05-07 17:56:57 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Stephen Leake <Stephe.  2008-05-09 03:24:21 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
"Randy Brukardt"  2008-05-07 17:56:57 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Adam Beneschan <adam@[  2008-05-07 16:20:55 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
anon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-05-09 19:49:50 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Jerry <lanceboyle@[EMA  2008-05-09 19:36:58 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
anon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-05-10 03:53:54 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Georg Bauhaus <see.rep  2008-05-10 10:05:33 
Re: How to check a Float for NaN
christoph.grein@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 23:24:48 

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