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Re: Getting the file name from a FILE *

by Tor Rustad <bwzcab@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 30, 2008 at 06:46 PM

Richard Tobin wrote:
> In article <KbCdnebxjomgvvXV4p2dnAA@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> Tor Rustad  <bwzcab@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
>>> Well, that would have been the natural interpretation, but in that
> 
>> Instead of assuming others write something stupid, it's perhaps wise to

>> reconsider your own smartness first.
> 
> I just couldn't see how your point made any sense otherwise.

In the message you responded to, I said:

"When adding features like _fname(), there will be a cost,
the main thing might not even the extra bloat by mem usage,
but that this trigger more cache misses, worse branch
prediction etc. etc."


To spell it out: my main consern was NOT the extra SPACE required, but 
the TIME overhead. Regardless, I would add a benchmark with at least 10 
000 files to open and read, considering only 100 files, was way too
little.


>>> case what would the problem be with storing the file names?  The
>>> amount of space required corresponds to the number of simultaneously
>>> open files, not the total number ever opened.
> 
>> FYI, an implementation of the standard C library free(), may or may not

>> trigger a system call, which actually free the memory chunk allocated. 
>> Even if a program burn memory like a pig, modern OS'es will typically 
>> swap out unused memory pages anyway.
> 
> I still don't understand your point.  I know all that.


IF you did, then please explain how this make sense:

"The amount of space required corresponds to the number of 
simultaneously open files, not the total number ever opened."


FYI, assume that a program open X files, load the content of all X 
files, then close X files.

At this point, the "simultaneously open files" are only 3. If free() 
implementation has no explicit system call to free the space allocated, 
the memory required by the program at this point, does _not_ correspond 
to 3 files, but to

3 + X

files.

>> If the free() implementation is like you suggest, with an explicit 
>> system call for every free() call.
> 
> I haven't suggested anything like that at all.  I doubt there are
> any such implementations.

This statement

"The amount of space required corresponds to the number of 
simultaneously open files, not the total number ever opened."

only made sense to me, IF you suggested exactly that. Unlike others, I 
do assume that people are smart. :P

-- 
Tor <echo bwzcab@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | tr i-za-h a-z>
 




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santosh <santosh.k83@[  2008-06-20 23:56:40 
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Eric Sosman <Eric.Sosm  2008-06-20 14:49:52 
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jacob navia <jacob@[EM  2008-06-20 23:39:05 
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richard@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-20 22:25:39 
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Keith Thompson <kst-u@  2008-06-20 15:10:51 
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Richard<rgrdev@[EMAIL   2008-06-29 21:40:20 
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Richard<rgrdev@[EMAIL   2008-06-30 14:10:34 
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jacob navia <jacob@[EM  2008-06-25 16:55:07 
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Cesar Rabak <csrabak@[  2008-06-25 17:26:27 
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Eric Sosman <Eric.Sosm  2008-06-25 16:34:48 
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"Dik T. Winter"  2008-06-26 10:31:32 
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"rio" <a@[EM  2008-06-25 22:11:27 
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Tor Rustad <bwzcab@[EM  2008-06-25 22:52:21 
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jacob navia <jacob@[EM  2008-06-25 23:24:52 
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Tor Rustad <bwzcab@[EM  2008-06-26 00:21:26 
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CBFalconer <cbfalconer  2008-06-25 18:25:21 
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Chris Dollin <chris.do  2008-06-25 16:07:42 
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Ben Bacarisse <ben.use  2008-06-25 15:46:40 
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jacob navia <jacob@[EM  2008-06-25 18:51:21 
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Ian Collins <ian-news@  2008-06-26 07:13:16 
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Ben Bacarisse <ben.use  2008-06-25 16:41:45 
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"Bartc" <bc@  2008-06-25 16:15:30 
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Richard<rgrdev@[EMAIL   2008-06-25 19:09:52 
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Ben Bacarisse <ben.use  2008-06-25 22:13:23 
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Nick Keighley <nick_ke  2008-06-26 01:54:33 
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Tor Rustad <tor_rustad  2008-06-20 21:19:25 
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jacob navia <jacob@[EM  2008-06-20 23:01:22 
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Tor Rustad <tor_rustad  2008-06-21 18:45:27 
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Keith Thompson <kst-u@  2008-06-21 20:19:27 
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Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-06-22 03:53:23 
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CBFalconer <cbfalconer  2008-06-20 18:20:17 
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Richard<rgrdev@[EMAIL   2008-06-21 00:47:09 
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jacob navia <jacob@[EM  2008-06-21 23:39:13 
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jacob navia <jacob@[EM  2008-06-27 23:33:12 
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Tor Rustad <bwzcab@[EM  2008-06-30 18:46:23 
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"Dik T. Winter"  2008-06-30 03:15:40 
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Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-06-21 23:17:29 
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"Charlie Gordon"  2008-08-16 22:51:28 
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Peter Nilsson <airia@[  2008-06-26 17:01:16 
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CBFalconer <cbfalconer  2008-06-22 01:33:24 
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John Bode <jfbode1029@  2008-06-22 09:32:37 
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CBFalconer <cbfalconer  2008-06-22 01:10:58 
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Richard<rgrdev@[EMAIL   2008-06-23 12:45:10 
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jacob navia <jacob@[EM  2008-06-23 13:09:23 
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Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-06-23 15:24:46 
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