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Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?

by ArarghMail805NOSPAM@[EMAIL PROTECTED] May 11, 2008 at 03:22 AM

On Sat, 10 May 2008 23:50:35 -0700 (PDT), rhnlogic
<rhnlogic@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

<snip>
>
>Completely useless for the target audience, Beginners,
>who know and should have to know nothing about IOCTLs
>and such.  What there should be are just simple and
>almost obvious commands, such as
>PRINT for printing on the ASR-33 teletype,
>Beep and Sound for computers with speakers,
>maybe Spin Left and Spin Right for computers with propellers.
I have no problem with statements like PRINT, LOCATE, COLOR, CLS,
BEEP, SOUND, INPUT and maybe even LPRINT (which I don't sup****t in
BCET).  Those could be considered to be basic I/O statements.  (Pun
intended)  :-)

My problem is with having to sup****t a multitude of various oddball
serial ****ts, USB ****ts, parallel ****ts, . . .

And just look at all the various adapters that are sup****ted by the
SCREEN statement - 6 in PDS, 8 in QBasic.  I just think it would have
been better if those were handled by drivers, and not in Basic.

>Of course, that's neither extensible nor ****table; but other
>languages are better architected for those purposes; no need
>to make Basic as unusable for Beginners by adding the flaws
>of those other languages.
And another question might be: How often to beginners actually use any
I/O except for the keyboard, display and printer?  And data files, of
course.
-- 
ArarghMail805 at [drop the 'http://www.'
from ->] http://www.arargh.com
BCET Basic Compiler Page: http://www.arargh.com/basic/index.html

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"jj" <intel@  2008-04-20 20:37:37 
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"Tom Lake" <  2008-04-21 08:24:21 
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ArarghMail804NOSPAM@[EMAI  2008-04-21 19:25:51 
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"Tom Lake" <  2008-04-21 22:12:32 
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ArarghMail804NOSPAM@[EMAI  2008-04-21 22:51:21 
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"Auric__" <n  2008-04-22 15:36:03 
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ArarghMail804NOSPAM@[EMAI  2008-04-22 21:29:31 
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MC PRTK <prtk.uncensor  2008-05-11 01:38:25 
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ArarghMail805NOSPAM@[EMAI  2008-05-10 16:40:00 
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"Tom Lake" <  2008-04-22 13:46:44 
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ArarghMail804NOSPAM@[EMAI  2008-04-22 21:31:44 
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"news@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-26 11:45:05 
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Derek <derekrss@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 21:48:37 
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"news@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-22 14:56:36 
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ppnerkDELETETHIS@[EMAIL P  2008-04-23 09:20:52 
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"Tom Lake" <  2008-04-23 06:37:51 
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"news@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-23 06:57:01 
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Adam <no@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-23 12:22:19 
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rhnlogic <rhnlogic@[EM  2008-04-23 11:38:36 
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rhnlogic <rhnlogic@[EM  2008-04-23 11:46:29 
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"carlg@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-25 13:23:24 
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"news@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-25 15:36:07 
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"carlg@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-25 21:33:06 
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"jj" <intel@  2008-04-26 06:24:13 
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"Gordon Rahman"  2008-04-26 14:57:07 
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"jj" <intel@  2008-04-26 14:49:15 
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"Gordon Rahman"  2008-04-26 18:04:01 
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"news@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-26 08:30:00 
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"Gordon Rahman"  2008-04-26 18:23:48 
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"carlg@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-26 08:45:27 
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"news@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-26 09:05:57 
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"carlg@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-26 09:34:16 
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"news@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-26 09:40:44 
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"news@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-26 10:11:41 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
"carlg@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-26 10:58:28 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
rhnlogic <rhnlogic@[EM  2008-05-10 23:50:35 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
ArarghMail805NOSPAM@[EMAI  2008-05-11 03:22:14 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
John H. Guillory <john  2008-08-21 01:07:32 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
"news@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-22 01:35:53 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
"Gordon Rahman"  2008-04-26 14:38:32 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
Adam <no@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-26 11:07:00 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
"Gordon Rahman"  2008-04-26 18:44:10 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
rhnlogic <rhnlogic@[EM  2008-04-26 21:36:47 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
"Gordon Rahman"  2008-04-27 13:48:39 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
"news@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-27 02:53:02 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
"Stephen J. Rush&quo  2008-04-26 18:17:34 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
"Gordon Rahman"  2008-04-27 13:29:31 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
"news@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-28 09:35:42 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
H-Man <I-Hate@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 11:53:37 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
rhnlogic <rhnlogic@[EM  2008-04-28 14:39:54 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
H-Man <I-Hate@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 15:58:42 
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"Tom Lake" <  2008-04-28 21:44:05 
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"news@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-29 01:15:52 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
"jj" <intel@  2008-04-29 13:39:11 
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"Tom Lake" <  2008-04-29 13:54:37 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
rhnlogic <rhnlogic@[EM  2008-04-29 15:51:59 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
"Tom Lake" <  2008-04-30 05:33:51 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
Derek <derekrss@[EMAIL  2008-04-29 22:57:21 
Re: Rewrite BASIC language today?
ArarghMail804NOSPAM@[EMAI  2008-04-30 03:04:39 

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