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Re: fractal dimension of WMAP picture

by Roger Bagula <rlbagula@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 16, 2007 at 07:27 AM

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Craig Markwardt wrote:

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>
>You probably need a baseline comparison.  In other words, would
>simulated gaussian noise with the same power spectrum as the CMB give
>the same fractal dimension results?
>
>CM
>  
>
Craig Markwardt,
Wendelin Werner  ( recent fields medalist) has done work on
a very similar type of problem
and there are graphics at:
http://www.math.u-psud.fr/~werner/
http://www.math.u-psud.fr/%7Ewerner/pub.html
The area of study is called Brownian islands.
http://swiss.csail.mit.edu/~rauch/islands/

So I'm actually able to answer you for the 2d case
from a Mandelbrot published article on the Internet:
http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/mandelbrot04/mandelbrot04_index.html

> Empirical measurement yielded 1.3336 and on this basis, my 1982 book, 
> /The Fractal Geometry of Nature, /conjectured that the value of 4/3 is 
> exact. Mathematician friends chided me: had I told them before 
> publi****ng, they could have quickly provided a fully rigorous proof of 
> my conjecture. They were wildly overoptimistic, and a proof turned out 
> to be extraordinarily elusive. A colleague provided a numerical 
> approximation that fitted 4/3 to about 15 decimal places, but an 
> actual proof took 18 years and the joining of contributions of three 
> very different scientists. It was an enormous sensation in the year
2000.

It was this proof that got Wendelin Werner the Fields Medal
more than anything.

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Craig Markwardt wrote:
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You probably need a baseline comparison.  In other words, would
simulated gaussian noise with the same power spectrum as the CMB give
the same fractal dimension results?

CM
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Craig Markwardt,<br>
Wendelin Werner&nbsp; ( recent fields medalist) has done work on <br>
a very similar type of problem<br>
and there are graphics at:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.math.u-psud.fr/~werner/">http://www.math.u-psud.fr/~werner/</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.math.u-psud.fr/%7Ewerner/pub.html">http://www.math.u-psud.fr/%7Ewerner/pub.html</a><br>
The area of study is called Brownian islands.<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://swiss.csail.mit.edu/~rauch/islands/">http://swiss.csail.mit.edu/~rauch/islands/</a><br>
<br>
So I'm actually able to answer you for the 2d case<br>
from a Mandelbrot published article on the Internet:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/mandelbrot04/mandelbrot04_index.html">http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/mandelbrot04/mandelbrot04_index.html</a><br>
<blockquote type="cite"><font
 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> Empirical
measurement yielded 1.3336 and on this basis, my 1982 book, <i>The
Fractal Geometry of Nature, </i>conjectured that the value of 4/3 is
exact. Mathematician friends chided me: had I told them before
publi****ng, they could have quickly provided a fully rigorous proof of
my conjecture. They were wildly overoptimistic, and a proof turned out
to be extraordinarily elusive. A colleague provided a numerical
approximation that fitted 4/3 to about 15 decimal places, but an actual
proof took 18 years and the joining of contributions of three very
different scientists. It was an enormous sensation in the year
2000.</font></blockquote>
It was this proof that got Wendelin Werner the Fields Medal<br>
more than anything.<br>
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Fwd: New Scientist fractal universe
Roger Bagula <rlbagula  2007-03-09 15:16:39 
Re: Fwd: New Scientist fractal universe
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Re: Fwd: New Scientist fractal universe
Roger Bagula <rlbagula  2007-03-11 08:18:59 
Re: Fwd: New Scientist fractal universe
"rloldershaw@[EMAIL   2007-03-11 10:33:43 
fractal dimension of WMAP picture
Roger Bagula <rlbagula  2007-03-11 18:13:29 
Re: fractal dimension of WMAP picture
Craig Markwardt <craig  2007-03-16 10:24:59 
Re: fractal dimension of WMAP picture
Roger Bagula <rlbagula  2007-03-16 07:27:50 
Re: fractal dimension of WMAP picture
"rloldershaw@[EMAIL   2007-03-11 11:27:31 
Re: fractal dimension of WMAP picture
Roger Bagula <rlbagula  2007-03-13 18:55:15 
Re: fractal dimension of WMAP picture
"rloldershaw@[EMAIL   2007-03-13 21:16:28 

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