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Re: Total Newbie Backward Compat Question

by Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 13, 2008 at 06:54 PM

"Daniel T." <daniel_t@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:

> Ben Bacarisse <ben.use...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> It seemed that you objected to one kind of setter
>> because it broke referential transparency.  All setters break
>> referential transparency (unless there is another meaning of the term
>> that has passed me by) so would you not object to any "setter" method?
>> If not, why was breaking referential transparency bad in this one
>> specific case and not in others?
>
> OK, I see the confusion. The Command-Query Separation Principle says
> that queries, i.e., functions that return object state, should not
> break referential transparency. The reason I object in this case is
> because the method in question is a query *and* a setter, not just
> because it is a setter.

You had already made that point a few line earlier.  It was your
bringing up referential transparency that surprised me (and was the
only reason I posted).

-- 
Ben.
 




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Total Newbie Backward Compat Question
Hal Vaughan <hal@[EMAI  2008-03-10 05:38:03 
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Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-03-10 05:48:22 
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Hal Vaughan <hal@[EMAI  2008-03-10 05:49:42 
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Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-03-10 06:24:13 
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Hal Vaughan <hal@[EMAI  2008-03-11 14:35:17 
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Crazy c <chrisNchrist@  2008-03-10 04:12:17 
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Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-03-10 12:05:13 
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"Chris ( Val )"  2008-03-10 06:15:26 
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Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-03-10 14:21:14 
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"Chris ( Val )"  2008-03-11 02:15:39 
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Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-03-11 10:29:42 
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Bart van Ingen Schenau &l  2008-03-11 18:58:25 
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"Daniel T." <  2008-03-12 06:26:50 
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Bart van Ingen Schenau &l  2008-03-12 17:43:08 
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"Chris ( Val )"  2008-03-11 04:21:32 
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Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-03-11 14:56:52 
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Anand Hariharan <mailt  2008-03-11 19:31:54 
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"Chris ( Val )"  2008-03-12 06:15:16 
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"Chris ( Val )"  2008-03-12 06:19:55 
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"Chris ( Val )"  2008-03-12 06:27:42 
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"Chris ( Val )"  2008-03-12 06:54:16 
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Bart van Ingen Schenau &l  2008-03-12 18:40:28 
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"Chris ( Val )"  2008-03-12 07:10:18 
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Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-03-12 14:28:48 
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Hal Vaughan <hal@[EMAI  2008-03-13 05:43:14 
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Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-03-13 07:11:42 
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Jerry Coffin <jcoffin@  2008-03-14 00:25:02 
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Hal Vaughan <hal@[EMAI  2008-03-13 03:23:30 
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Philip Potter <pgp@[EM  2008-03-13 15:57:05 
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"Daniel T." <  2008-03-12 11:46:58 
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Bart van Ingen Schenau &l  2008-03-14 21:34:35 
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"Daniel T." <  2008-03-14 22:01:32 
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Francis Glassborow <fr  2008-03-15 10:02:29 
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Anand Hariharan <mailt  2008-03-12 18:36:13 
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"Daniel T." <  2008-03-13 06:52:53 
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Anand Hariharan <mailt  2008-03-12 23:36:10 
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Micah Cowan <micah@[EM  2008-03-14 09:40:31 
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"Daniel T." <  2008-03-13 10:23:19 
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Bart van Ingen Schenau &l  2008-03-14 21:45:47 
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"Daniel T." <  2008-03-15 07:14:33 
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Francis Glassborow <fr  2008-03-15 16:14:23 
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"Daniel T." <  2008-03-16 09:37:37 
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"Chris ( Val )"  2008-03-18 05:04:15 
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"Chris ( Val )"  2008-03-18 05:40:29 
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Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-03-18 22:54:23 
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"Chris ( Val )"  2008-03-18 07:12:06 
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"Chris ( Val )"  2008-03-21 05:44:42 
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Richard Heathfield <rj  2008-03-21 13:34:56 
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Ben Bacarisse <ben.use  2008-03-12 18:05:26 
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"Daniel T." <  2008-03-12 20:46:50 
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Ben Bacarisse <ben.use  2008-03-13 01:57:08 
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Ben Bacarisse <ben.use  2008-03-13 18:54:38 

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