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Re: New Cobol compiler written in Cobol

by Donald Tees <donald_tees@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 28, 2005 at 10:16 AM

Paul Robinson wrote:
> I am considering the development of a Cobol compiler itself written in 
> Cobol.  Please don't flame me over the perceived stupidity of such a 
> choice, I think it is a better idea than a language that cannot compile 
> itself.  I do believe obviously that there is enough power in the 
> language to implement a COBOL compiler using the COBOL language.  After 
> all, a compiler is simply a program to translate text from a source into

> a target.  We're not talking rocket science or brain surgery here.
> 
> I believe there is money to be made with a good inexpensive Cobol 
> compiler which is available for several different targets, which would 
> allow applications to be used unchanged on different environments, such 
> as IBM Mainframe, DOS, Windows, Linux and others.  Having done 
> maintenance on three other language compilers and written one from 
> scratch for Fortran in three months, I decided to focus on Cobol as I 
> think it is an underserved market and I think there is both room for 
> another product and sufficient market need to merit the time and effort 
> in developing one.
> 
> I am wondering if there was interest in such a thing.  What I am 
> thinking about is something that did not require run-time licensing 
> fees, would not be hugely expensive as most Cobol compilers seem to be, 
> and by writing the compiler in Cobol itself, the people who use the 
> compiler, if they wanted an additional feature the compiler did not 
> supply, could write the code for it themselves if they chose to do so. 
> Oh yes, source code would be included as it has been long standing 
> policy that customers are entitled to be able to hire someone other than

> the original development staff if they choose to do so or if it was no 
> longer possible to continue development.  (Originally I wanted to write 
> "to hire someone not as good as the original development staff" in the 
> previous sentence but I decided I should be humble!  I'm probably not 
> that good a programmer, and I'll probably get better as I get more 
> experience.  I've only been doing programming for 24 years and I figure 
> I'll get better as I learn more.)
> 
> Perhaps I am misguided and there is no market or desire for such a 
> thing.  I think there is, but I'd like to hear people's comments on 
> whether they would be interested in such a thing and how much 
> (seriously) it would be worth to them.  I mean, if it is possible to 
> sell (nationally or worldwide) 10,000 copies at $100 each that's a huge 
> market.  On the other hand it might be there's only interest for perhaps

> 500 copies of such an application in which case it would have to be more

> expensive.  Or I could be kidding myself that the market is saturated 
> and there really is no interest.  I don't know enough to judge and I 
> don't have enough information to say.  That's why I'm asking for
comments.
> 
> There is also the issue that I may be pricing the product too high to be

> worthwhile or that I'm pricing it so low that no one will take me 
> seriously.  That is also why I'm trying to find out what people who 
> actually use Cobol (or would buy one for use in their shop) think such a

> thing is worth.  Obviously what I want to develop is something that is 
> so valuable to them for what is being charged that they both believe 
> they can't afford not to get it, and worry about buying it fast enough 
> before I come to our senses and raise the price on them.  If that is the

> case and I can make money off of it, it's a win-win situation for
everyone.
> 
> There is also the issue that if there is interest I am going to want to 
> ask some people to either send me some of the code they use or examples 
> of some so I can test it or to be willing to try compiling production 
> code against various releases of the compiler and inform me if they get 
> the same results as their current system, or what differences they 
> notice.  I'll file specific notices when that happens in order to 
> solicit beta testers, but I'm curious if there is interest.
> 
> I'm also interested in two things: (1) what features do you find missing

> in Cobol compilers or the programming environment that you wish were 
> available, (2) what would you want from a good quality Cobol compiler, 
> again with a view towards something you think is worth paying for.
> 
> Of course you can try to tell me that I'm making a huge mistake and it's

> pointless for me to bother, in which case I'd like to know your reasons.
> 
> Paul Robinson
> paul at code-compiler dot com
> 
> 
> Remove NOSPAM from out of header for private e-mail replies if desired, 
> but I really am interested in newsgroup replies.

Count me in for a few hours a week. As to specifics ... start small and 
expand to everything.

Donald
 




 13 Posts in Topic:
New Cobol compiler written in Cobol
Paul Robinson <paul@[E  2005-01-28 14:54:40 
Re: New Cobol compiler written in Cobol
Donald Tees <donald_te  2005-01-28 10:16:35 
Re: New Cobol compiler written in Cobol
"JerryMouse" &l  2005-01-28 11:11:05 
Re: New Cobol compiler written in Cobol
Paul Robinson <paul@[E  2005-01-28 17:38:41 
Re: New Cobol compiler written in Cobol
"Chuck Stevens"  2005-01-28 12:01:17 
Re: New Cobol compiler written in Cobol
"William M. Klein&qu  2005-01-28 20:53:33 
Re: New Cobol compiler written in Cobol
"William M. Klein&qu  2005-01-28 21:13:30 
Re: New Cobol compiler written in Cobol
Joe Zitzelberger <joe_  2005-01-28 18:04:31 
Re: New Cobol compiler written in Cobol
"steve.t" <s  2005-01-29 21:44:50 
Re: New Cobol compiler written in Cobol
"JerryMouse" &l  2005-02-01 19:39:37 
Re: New Cobol compiler written in Cobol
David Flick <df@[EMAIL  2005-01-31 12:46:04 
Re: New Cobol compiler written in Cobol
"Richard" <r  2005-01-31 11:01:03 
Re: New Cobol compiler written in Cobol
"Richard" <r  2005-02-01 17:50:54 

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